Post by ShinGaoKaiser on Dec 12, 2019 20:29:21 GMT
Now, let me preface this by saying that this applies only to the original Dragon Ball and the Z series as well. It also will not be using the American soundtrack for the show as a standard for comparison since it failed to do the show proper justice 100% and as such will also come under scrutiny here. Instead, I'll be using other Japanese composers, the theme of the show, and even composition standards set and met by the likes of, say, John Williams to judge Kikuchi's soundtracks.
This whole problem seems to stem from Toei's directors just being cheap and not involved in general. Few instrumental themes if any (that aren't just re-arrangements of the OP or any such song) stick with the viewer or strike you as being uniquely DB the way it does for other anime such as Naruto (more on that as I go through this OP), or that it may echo throughout the franchise like the themes of Star Wars that aren't the Opening theme (which in its own case lacks vocals to begin with but is still iconic).
In fact, Kikuchi literally just copied the OST's of his previous 70's works like Grendizer for example:
And he never composed or arranged a single OP, ED, or insert theme for the show.
Meanwhile, Kenji Yamamoto's contributions to insert themes and such were literally plagiarized like a lot of the man's work would later be revealed to have been.
So, if you got a composer like Kōichi Sugiyama, Kōhei Tanaka, Michiaki Watanabe, or Yasunori Iwasaki (who did Solid State Scouter), coupled with a director who cared about the origins of the show, you'd have a much better composed soundtrack that fit the show's origins while still embracing more modern elements for the alien direction it would begin to take in Z.
Tanaka for one made an excellent Chinese theme for two Chinese robots in GGG:
And compare the Grendizer tracks to this one from 1980's Ideon, composed by Sugiyama:
Judge for yourselves which ones are objectively inspired and superior. Kikuchi's action tracks are by far mostly in F Minor/Ab Major, which is the reason they all tend to sound the same, beyond just the instruments.
And this is not to mention, say, the Naruto soundtracks all being true to the traditional Japanese origins of the show as that was the thematic basis of it, even as it took on modern elements and had no OP or ED that it could truly call its own (meaning it may as well have none at all), not to mention insert themes for which there's none either way. They made their OST cover every shade and situation that the show went into, and had instrumental themes that stick with you throughout like the main theme. Can anyone say the same for Kikuchi's Dragon Ball score? Even the DB video games accomplish the Chinese root aspect.
This alone has more staying power than anything he composed or ripped from his past works:
And one more thing is that fans of the sub never once compare this OST to anything else produced in that time period or before from Japan, the only bar they place it to is the rather overdone English dub score. That one may have tried to fill in certain blanks by making signature themes but it was too much techno that would have been put to better use elsewhere or subdued and with more variety to better reflect the roots of Dragon Ball.
Taka: Thanks Master Menos! I'll work on finishing the Winter 2020 guide.
Jan 9, 2020 4:50:29 GMT
Dream: My second Funi poll is done. Titles I will be watching and reviewing will include Chobits, Samurai Champloo, Spice and Wolf, Gankutsuou, and Dance in the Vampire Bund. Will let folks know which one I start off tomorrow at some point.
Jan 11, 2020 5:39:30 GMT
Dream: First anime I will sample among the Funi titles is Chobits. As a heads up, the series on Funi's Youtube channel is missing the two recap episodes the series aired. Not that I'll be missing those however.
Jan 11, 2020 15:13:09 GMT
Dream: Wow, never knew Shinbo was Gil, Sousuke, and Domon. More you know.
Jan 11, 2020 17:52:00 GMT
Dream: Just completed Chobits. Will get a review up for it at some point this afternoon.
Jan 18, 2020 18:37:22 GMT
Dream: Will post a little later what the next voted anime will be that I will watch and review.
Jan 18, 2020 19:48:38 GMT
Dream: Next anime up to cover will be Dance in the Vampire Bund. Suppose a short anime will do for now following Chobits.
Jan 18, 2020 21:32:36 GMT
Dream: Concluding things at episode 2 with Vampire Bund for the night. Hoping to get back to Basquatch tomorrow, as long as I'm not swamped with anything.
Jan 19, 2020 3:00:33 GMT
Dream: Geez, it's really quiet. No activity in the forums since I posted my review from yesterday.
Jan 19, 2020 15:57:41 GMT
Taka: I'll email the receipts. The best anime and manga of 2019 will be extended to Wed. I don't get time off for Mon because of community service. Please vote if you haven't yet. Thank you!
Jan 19, 2020 20:44:07 GMT
Dream: Hmmmm... looks like the version of Vampire Bund I'm seeing on Funi's YouTube channel's an edited version. A couple minutes of episode 2 were clearly removed with Mina in nothing but underwear battling human assassins. Then again, recall there was a good...
Jan 19, 2020 22:49:15 GMT
Dream: ...deal of controversy with the series a decade earlier thanks to the seemingly underaged nudity of Mina while in her younger form.
Jan 19, 2020 22:50:13 GMT
Dream: Not sure if I should be donning the nostalgia goggles or not giving a damn. Looks like the original Digimon Adventure series is getting a reboot airing starting in the Spring season.
Jan 21, 2020 3:21:13 GMT
Taka: I'll watch it if there's nothing catching my eye in Spring. winter 2020 was a weak anime season for me.
Jan 22, 2020 18:29:46 GMT
Dream: Wouldn't say it's all bad for me. Have a few titles holding my interest. Just it typically doesn't have as many major titles of note that would hold me over.
Jan 22, 2020 23:54:44 GMT
Dream: Done with Vampire Bund. Will be working on a review of it before I hop into the next Funi series. Hoping to get it up either tonight or tomorrow, depending on how lengthy my thoughts get.
Jan 24, 2020 1:44:49 GMT