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Studio: Wit Studio Adaptation: Manga Genres: War, Slavery, Action, Fictional History, Drama, Seinen, Adventure Episodes: 24 Release Date: July 6, 2019 Streaming: Amazon,
Plot: Thorfinn, son of one of the Vikings’ greatest warriors, is among the finest fighters in the merry band of mercenaries run by the cunning Askeladd, an impressive feat for a person his age. However, Thorfinn is not part of the group for the plunder it entails—instead, for having caused his family great tragedy, the boy has vowed to kill Askeladd in a fair duel. Not yet skilled enough to defeat him, but unable to abandon his vengeance, Thorfinn spends his boyhood with the mercenary crew, honing his skills on the battlefield among the war-loving Danes, where killing is just another pleasure of life.
One day, when Askeladd receives word that Danish prince Canute has been taken hostage, he hatches an ambitious plot—one that will decide the next King of England and drastically alter the lives of Thorfinn, Canute, and himself. Set in 11th century Europe, Vinland Saga tells a bloody epic in an era where violence, madness, and injustice are inescapable, providing a paradise for the battle-crazed and utter hell for the rest who live in it.
The official website for the television anime of Makoto Yukimura's Vinland Saga manga revealed on Sunday that Aimer will perform the anime's ending theme song "Torches." The song's CD single will ship on August 14 as Aimer's 17th single.
The show will air with its first three episodes together. The series will premiere with the first three episodes on July 7 at 24:10 (effectively, July 8 at 12:10 a.m.) on the NHK General channel, except in the Kansai area, where it will start at 24:45 (12:45 a.m.). The anime will also stream exclusively on Amazon Prime Video both in Japan and overseas, with the first episode streaming in Japan early on July 6 at 24:00 (July 7 at 12:00 a.m.). The second episode will premiere on Amazon in Japan on July 8 at 1:40 a.m. and the third episode will premiere on July 8 at 2:10 a.m. The show will run for 24 episodes.
Shuhei Yabuta (Inuyashiki Last Hero director, Attack on Titan 3D director) is directing the anime at Wit Studio (Attack on Titan, Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress, The Ancient Magus' Bride). Hiroshi Seko (Banana Fish, Ajin: Demi-Human) is supervising the series scripts and writing them with Kenta Ihara (Saga of Tanya the Evil). Takahiko Abiru (Hunter × Hunter animation director) is designing the characters. Bamboo is in charge of the art, and MAD BOX is in charge of special effects. Yutaka Yamada (Tokyo Ghoul, Donten ni Warau Gaiden: Ketsubetsu, Yamainu no Chikai) is composing the music. Survive Said the Prophet is performing the anime's opening theme song "MUKANJYO."
The mangaka shares about Ep 11 cut content which is avalable on Amazon
Vinland Saga manga creator Makoto Yukimura made sure viewers knew that the series' 11th episode had some changes when it aired on NHK on Saturday night. Yukimura wrote on Twitter on Sunday that the NHK version was "smaller in scale" and due to "various circumstance" the episode had numerous cuts "everywhere." Yukimura apologized to viewers and stated that the full version of the episode is available on the Amazon Prime streaming service.
Yukimura elaborated that the issues were no one's fault and related to NHK's status as a terrestrial television station.
"Regardless, it's unfortunate that that the cut scenes won't be seen by everyone!" the manga artist wrote. "It's a shame when even a bit of the hard work put into an anime production is lost. In short, I'm advertising why you should by the Blu-ray. And watch on Amazon Prime!"
The video has spoilers for anyone who hasn't finished the anime.
The official website for the television anime adaptation of Makoto Yukimura's Vinland Saga manga began streaming a "special video" for the anime after the 24th and final episode aired on Monday. The video does not announce a sequel, but does tease the manga's next arc after the end of the story of the anime.
The anime's YouTube channel also posted a seven-minute comment video from original manga creator Makoto Yukimura in which he comments on the anime adaptation, including original stories that were not in the manga, the anime's 14th episode, and his voice acting role in the anime itself.
Started up one month of Amazon Prime. Don't think I get the free trial.
I was wondering how graphic the anime is. No dismemberment or decapitation. The manga shows initialization of rape scenes but never show the act of rape. The anime shows aftermath of rape in episode 5 when you see the legs of a woman hidden by the house when Thorfinn was looking for Askeladd after Askeladd raided an English village.
Ep 6 The episode marks Thorfinn’s descent as a monster, he killed an English soldier when the English ambushes the Danish army and Askeladd’s people. An older female village remarks how King Edgard was a better king because he befriended the Danes. The reigning king started to slaughter all the Danes in English. This is a grey moral of an episode, the same woman took in an injured Thorfinn despite the daughter noticing he cannot speak their language, implying he is a Dane. These scenes talk about gender. Thorfinn can speak English. He still has a kind heart, trying to warn the grandma and villagers to run. The grandmother reminds Thorfinn about his peaceful family life back in Iceland.
Ep 7 With the Danish army putting the invasion on hold (invading next summer), Asekladd whose group had raided most of the English villages head to France. They do show heads separated from the bodies but no decapitation scene in act? At least, I think. The Franks call Askeladd’s people, Normanni instead of Danish. Asekladd’s people plundered and steal the treasure before the French general. The men got into the fort through the river (upstream. So they had to bring their boat by land) and destroyed all the boats. Thorfinn manages to catch up and give them the captain’s head because Askeladd had to put up a condition for his duel invitation.
Ep 8 To rest for the winter, Askeladd and his group use their treasure to buy their lodgings at Uncle Gorm’s village in Jutland Peninsula. Hordaland is a slave named by the region in Norway. Reason I jot this down because I didn’t know slavery were mentioned this early. I read the manga long ago and slavery became a big theme during the farming arc. Long last, Askeladd finally got his duel. Uncle Gorm oversees the match as referee. Askeladd remarks how Thorfinn got so tall. He asked how old he was. Suddenly in the fight, Askeladd states did he really kill Thors after he mentions he forgot his name. Askeladd’s words provoke Thorfinn just like Askeladd intended to. Askeladd disarms Throfinn who was enraged. From Bjorn’s talks, it seems they still kept Thors’s ship where Thorfinn feels comfortable and a place for him to rest. The episode brings up themes of pride. Past episode 0 young Thorfinn could not kill Askeladd in his sleep, Hordaland is a former noble woman who lost her family and bought into slavery, Uncle Gorm tries to show off his wealth and beats Hordaland. Askeladd states that everyone is a slave to someone. Hordaland gets a conversation with Thorfinn about how there is no free place. That reminds Thorfinn about the story of Vinland Saga, Lief’s tales of a land west, far from war.
Ep 9 Battle of London - the Danish Army is stalled Blackbeard (One Piece) VA voices Thorkell – he is on the side of England for the money. London is a strategic point in the war for supplies thanks to the Thames river. Askeladd gives Thorfinn a challenge to take Thorkell’s head. Bjorn talks about fighting for money and tells Askeladd that he fights to kill. However, Thorkell shows that he loves to fight rather than money when Floki tries to convince him to change side. Thorkell shares it will be fun to fight on the losing side.
For those who wanted a realistic grounded show, Thorkell breaks it for those fans. He is superhuman, launching logs at the men who tried to destroy the bridge. They do show decapitation but the Amazon video blackens the few frames. I think this show might have an uncensored release if there is blacken censorship. That's interesting that Amazon doesn't do uncensored. Netflix does uncensored. Crunchyroll sometimes does it and they add it later on.
Animation is high during Thorkell vs Thorfinn. This marks the first time Thorfinn felt defeat to anyone but Askeladd.
Ep 10 Thorfinn wakes up from a nightmare (it was a good dream of his family until he sees his father shot by arrows). He wakes up near a dead body. Askeladd’s people had raided another English village, killing, raping, and plundering the inhabitants. I remember this episode is based on chapter 20 where it had 2 pages of Askeladd’s men initiating the acts of rape against an English woman. I won’t call this censorship and I border on moderation of censorship. I think they did it to avoid controversy during this time. A brawl over insults ensues in the encampment among Askeladd’s men. In the ruins, Thorfinn notices how fertile and beautiful England is and wonders if it’s snowing in Iceland. Askeladd shows up, remarks that the men are frustrated from marching. He gives Thorfinn a history lesson. That the stones were built by the Celts who were wiped out by the Romans. He notes they will be wiped out soon and replaced by another group after the Danes replace the Saxon. I like how Askeladd mentions how he will grow old and will lose to Thorfinn because Thorfinn is young and growing. Thorkell’s people launch a campaign and leaves their fortress in an attack against Prince Canute’s men on the river bank. A soldier comes across Askeladd’s group, informing them before he reports to the main army.
I forgot why Askeladd cuts off the messenger’s head. Askeladd launches mission to steal Prince Canute from Thorkell as an asset to sell to either the rulers of Denmark and England. Ep. 11 Thorkell’s men talk about Christianity (mocking it) and then how beautiful and modest English women are. Some of them want to convert to Christianity. First time, we see fan service in this series. I think fan service is even rarer in the manga. There are nudity in the manga but it’s nothing of sexual, it’s mostly due to wartime and violence in its portrayal. This can be a stitch cap scene. I haven't found any stitched caps. Pride is a big theme. Some of the men do not want to retreat as cowards despite knowing they will likely die. Meanwhile, Askeladd’s men finish preparations and take advantage of Thorkell’s men being distracted by Canute’s men who are trying to rescue Canute. Thorkell is an intelligent and instinctual guy, smelling charcoal from Askeladd who are burning the forest. This causes Canute’s side to lose a lot of men. Ragnar manages to rescue Canute. Thorfinn manages to arrive when Thorkell’s men found Canute. Thorkell arrives, revealing that he knows Thorfinn’s father and mother. He praises Thors as a warrior.
Amazon has UK English.
First time we see Canute's face. The anime really makes this scene beautiful just like the manga.
Ep 12 Key scene for anime only viewers (a hint to Askeladd’s character as ethnicity is a big thing) when Askeladd requests an English elder who has a ferry, the elder notes Askeladd’s accent and how well he speaks English for a Dane. When Askeladd introduces himself as son of Olvia?, the name also hints the ethnicity. Askeladd bring his men to the people of Wales, Gratianus of Morgannwg Kingdom, who ship transport the men into Wales. Luckily, Askeladd knows some people in Wales, ensuring they have a much safer passage through Wales instead of going north in England. Gratianus requests Prince Canute to swear that if he becomes king of England, that he and Wales enter a nonaggression treaty pact. Around 17:00, fan service scene of the men thinking the King of Swent has a harem of 100 slave women from different nationalities. Possible horizontal stitch cap
Wales and England are enemies.
Ep 13 The Danes are fighting at Wessex. (Askeladd’s group will head to Gainsborough through Wales) This episode builds a bit on Canute’s introverted personality and brief background. The others have doubts he will king. Gratianus advises Askeladd that a nestling has to leave the nest, referencing to how Ragnar is very protective of Canute. Despite being in a similar position as a child, Thorfinn mistreats Canute as a princess. This episode confirms Askeladd’s motivation and ethnicity. He’s the descendant of Artorius who is King Arthur, mixed with Danish blood because Olaf had kidnapped a Welsh royalty named Lydia. Askeladd can speak English, Welsh, and Danish. Askeladd is loyal to the Welsh kingdom, wanting to make sure the Danes do not step foot by making Canute the king. Ep 12 Key scene for anime only viewers (a hint to Askeladd’s character as ethnicity is a big thing) when Askeladd requests an English elder who has a ferry, the elder notes Askeladd’s accent and how well he speaks English for a Dane. When Askeladd introduces himself as son of Olvia?, the name also hints the ethnicity. Askeladd bring his men to the people of Wales, Gratianus of Morgannwg Kingdom, who ship transport the men into Wales. Luckily, Askeladd knows some people in Wales, ensuring they have a much safer passage through Wales instead of going north in England. Gratianus requests Prince Canute to swear that if he becomes king of England, that he and Wales enter a nonaggression treaty pact. Around 17:00, fan service scene of the men thinking the King of Swent has a harem of 100 slave women from different nationalities. Possible horizontal stitch cap i.imgur.com/EpGm7ZT.png Wales and England are enemies.
Ep 13 The Danes are fighting at Wessex. (Askeladd’s group will head to Gainsborough through Wales) This episode builds a bit on Canute’s introverted personality and brief background. The others have doubts he will king. Gratianus advises Askeladd that a nestling has to leave the nest, referencing to how Ragnar is very protective of Canute. Despite being in a similar position as a child, Thorfinn mistreats Canute as a princess. This episode confirms Askeladd’s motivation and ethnicity. He’s the descendant of Artorius who is King Arthur, mixed with Danish blood because Olaf had kidnapped a Welsh royalty named Lydia. Askeladd can speak English, Welsh, and Danish. Askeladd is loyal to the Welsh kingdom, wanting to make sure the Danes do not step foot by making Canute the king.
Priest has some screen time - like the idea of a warrior doesn't use a weapon and he tried to warn the villagers about massacre. Seems like they did forget about Thorfinn's father, Thors.
Askeladd and his men killed all the Christian villagers.
Episode challenges ones faith in god. Canute actually yell at the priest for doubting the father. Canute wants approval of his father.
Anne, one of the survivors, of that village made it to the village where Thorkell is.
After 10 days, Askeladd and his group are now trapped with their location revealed.
Ragnar's death was the big moment. He love cooking with Canute. It was a bit sad. Ragnar was the true father to Canute, accepting and nurturing him. King Sweyn aims to kill one of his princes to avoid the separation of Denmark.
The arc is done with Askeladd's men mostly all wiped out. Canute undergo evolution, knowing what love is and gaining closure with Ragnar. He stops the fight after Thorfinn knocks out Thorkell (with Askeladd blinding him).
We get backstory of Thors and Helga as well learning Thorkell is like a great uncle to Thorfinn. Too bad, Thorfinn didn't divulge about his life in Iceland in return for Thorkell whom told him about how great his father was.
Finished the anime series. I often think back that this was Vinland Saga's best arc because when I read the manga after this arc, it's really slow. Violence content: dismemberment and decapitation are shown but blacken or obscure (in Amazon release), gouging eyes, blood Sexual violence: implied rape and aftermath of rape such as hair pulling, nude bodies obscure, sex slavery Animation: They do use CG minimally often for soldiers in the background, horses, and ships Music: I like the first opening theme song. The rest were unmemorable.
The series starts off with revenge before it could explore the "Vinland" title content. The anime only cover the revenge part due to how long the manga and ongoing it is. Did the anime adaptation did a good job on revenge? I don't know. The last episode ended so abruptly after Thorfinn loses his chance to kill Askeladd as a warrior in an honorable duel. Tragically, Askeladd was keeping his cool but things force his hand to take drastic measures when King Sweyn mock his mother as a slave, that Wales's commodities are slaves, and to make Askeladd choose between killing Canute or letting Wales burn to the ground. Askeladd chose neither and save both by killing King Sweyn and giving his life (death flag in the past episodes upon swearing to Prince Canute and his backstory) to Prince Canute to redeem and make Canute look good, be fit as the king of England.
Killing a prominent character is pretty risky especially if you don't have other characters to fill the void. If the anime does get season 2, anime only fans will see how the story is drastically changed in content and action.
Jason Douglas as Thors David Wald as Askeladd Mike Haimoto as Thorfinn Shannon Emerick as Young Thorfinn Joe Daniels as Thorkell John Swasey as Leif Josh Grelle as Prince Canute Luis Galindo as King Sweyn Andrew Love as Bjorn Rob Mungle as Ragnar Jay Hickman as Floki Ty Mahany as Atli Orlanders Tao Jones as Torgrim Kyle Colby Jones as Willibald John Gremillion as The Ear, Halfdan Chris Rager as Gratianus Josh Morrison as Asser Blake Weir as Asgier Olivia Swasey as Ylva Patricia Duran as Helga Greg Cote as Jabbathe Jim Johnson as Interpreter Chris Hutchison as Gorm Alexis Tipton as Hordaland, Faxi Jeremy Gee as Gunnar Jessica Boone as Anne Kregg Dailey as Father Julie Oliver-Touchstone as Mother Luci Christian as Sister Sean Patrick Judge as Olaf Joanne Bonasso as Lydia Tyler Galindo as Ari Antonio Lasanta as Mord Chelsea McCurdy as Snorre Gareth West as Magni Ry McKeand as Hakon Nathan Wilson as Grim Michael Wronski as Mols Marty Fleck as Narrator
Additional voices include Jad Saxton, Jovan Jackson, Scott Gibbs, Dave Harlan, Shane Fennimore, Shelley Calene-Black, Skyler Sinclair, Paul Locklear, John Hallmark, Jack Ivy, Labraska Washington, James Marler, Courtland Johnson, Patrick Marrero, Conner Clifton, Clay Thompson, Ned Gayle, Ryan Anthony, Joel McCray, Gabriel Regojo, Bryson Baugus, Elissa Cuellar, Mark Mendehlsen, Shannon Reed, Matthew Rudd, Blake Jackson, Monica Rial, and Tiffany Grant.
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