тиваненк I thought about it, but could the planets actually be stuck around him over 400,000 light-years away without being diverted by gravitational fields of other bodies like stars? At that distance? We're talking about an orbital path bigger than the Mily Way; you know what I'm getting at?
тиваненк Certainly, it does say that he forces planets into an orbital path around him. But here's the thing, Pyron's shape is merely a result of him shrinking his shapeless body into a roughly human-like form, his real form must be gigantic. We have 3 clues:
1- "Far above the blue planet called Earth, a dimly glowing spherical mass mumbled to itself", and since Pyron is a being of a pure energy, that means he's basically a star.
2- In his ending, he grows to the size of the sun easily, with planets orbiting his fingers:
3- This one ties in with point. "Shrinking his energy field into a more limiting form that somewhat resembled a human being, Pyrin submerged himself in the Pacific Ocean" + "As an intelligent lifeform composed of pure energy, Pyron would not usually be visible to the naked eye. In order to face the Darkstalkers under what he considered to be the 'rules of Earth,' Pyron adjusted his energy field to take on a more humanoid form". Now, both of these statements say (the second implying it. the whole "not usually visible thing" isa bit vague) that for Pyron to even take a humanoid form in the first place, he has to shrink himself.
And yet, even at the size of the sun, he still retained a humanoid shape, meaning his real form must be even bigger than that, and by a good deal.
So here's a conjecture. It's a combination of both special powers and his gravitational pull, the special powers being used to break the gravitational attraction the planets he has sets his eyes on has towards other celestial bodies (and keep unwanted elements outside of his gravitational pull), and his gravitational pull keeps them at an orbital path around him.
But, at an orbital path that spans 400,000 light years, this implies that Pyron's true form is the size of a galaxy.
I also remember in one of his endings it is said that Pyron grew to the size of the universe eventually in his cosmic conquest. So I don't think it's implausible that his true form is on a galactic scale.
Pyron is essentially a being of cosmic energy that is Darkstalkers' equivalent of Galactus in that he consumes and assimilates planets with his true body. The top tiers of Darkstalkers are galactic-level threats with their power, with the more stronger Jedah capable of absorbing the souls of an entire dimension.
Someday I’ll be gone To somewhere that we belong And God has never played his role 'Cause I’m the one who saves my soul It’s a perfect world we’re longing for
Old Man Dream Shame nothing outside of the games and the guidebook is canon, there's barely any material in the Darkstalkers verse and we haven't got a new game in almost 20 years now.
On an irrelevant note, did you know Jedah has an entire dimension in his chest? (just when you thought he couldn't get more OP):
Master Monster Menos Ah, didn't know about it. (We can swear like sailors anywhere on the site but not in topic titles? weird)
In his galactic form, he's a shapeless entity surrounded by what has to be billions of subjectively beautiful planets, with the orbital path around him spanning 400,000 light years (4 times bigger than our galaxy, the Milky Way).
The humanoid form we see is merely a result of him compressing his insanely large form so that he doesn't obliterate the world by just being on it (he wanted to have some fun fighting the Darkstalkers before consuming Earth. He ended up as an energy drink for Demitri, unfortunately).
Post by Alice Schroeder on Nov 18, 2016 14:23:01 GMT
Pyron really is Galaxy level in his true, immortal form. All his in-game feats are in his weakened, mortal self, because he likes fighting. Which led to his defeat by Demitri and Morrigan since both are beings capable of absorbing pure energy.
While we can't really use the comic, the anime and the translated crossover comic, they all provide valid lore and character insight. I think it's fair to use fights from the anime to scale the higher end characters.
Alice Schroeder I'm not sure he was actually weakened though. Nothing indicated or stated it. Humanoid Pyron being weaker than his true self means that the shrinking also involved leaving a good chunk of his energy behind (otherwise, why would a size alteration make him weaker when he's a being of pure energy?), implying that H-Pyron is actually just a fragment of the real, galactic Pyron and that he's actually still alive and well still roaming the universe, but we know that's not the case at all. Not only did Pyron die for good in canon, in his ending he easily grows to the size of the sun and wraps some planets around his fingers, clearly showing that he's just as strong in his galactic form, and merely shrunk himself without any actual loss in power.
Demitri and Morrigan beating him was just in the non-canon UDON comic series. Canonically, it was Demitri who beat him and absorbed him. And I admit that using feats and scaling from the comics and OVA is tempting, but again, they're not canon at all and don't actually add anything to the real lore of the series, which comes from the games and the guidebooks (Darkstalkers Graphic File, All About Vampire Savior, etc.).
What we could do is try to get our (digital ) hands on the guidebooks. I have the Darkstalkers Graphic File, but only that. All About Vampire Savior is EXTREMELY rare and is only in Japanese (there was a group that scanned and translated it but the their mediafire link got removed for some reason. I doubt it's Capcom though, as they're a pretty obscure group that hasn't been active for more than 4 years).
Here's a list of other guide books ripped from wikipedia (Now, if we can get any of these, it'd be fuckin' great, because they delve into the details of the story and setting more than Darkstalkers Graphic File. For example, Ozom's fate is never explained in DGF, just that he disappeared, but what really happened was that Jedah ripped his soul and turned it into the Majigen dimension, and this was mentioned in All About Vampire Savior. Just a taste of what we could uncover from these books):
Vampire Savior Graphical Manual Kiso Chishiki Hen (ISBN 4-88199-354-2) (Vol. 77) and Vampire Savior Technical Manual Jissen Katsuyō Hen (ISBN 4-88199-372-0) (Vol. 89), two Gamest Mook ("magazine book") guide/art books published by Shinseisha.
All About Vampire Savior (ISBN 4-88554-474-2), a guide/art book published by Dempa Shinbunsha.
Vampire Savior Kōshiki Guide Book (ISBN 4-7572-0065-X), a guide book written by Famitsu staff and published by ASCII.
Vampire Savior Perfect Guide (ISBN 4-7973-0627-0), a Sega Saturn Magazine guide book published by SoftBank.
Vampire Savior Fan Book, the Gamest Mook Vol. 88 that is part of the "World Series" (Vol. 5) that deals more with games' settings, aesthetics, and behind-the-scenes info than the gameplay.
Vampire: Night Warrior Taizen, a book that covers every game in the 1990s series (including Vampire Hunter 2 and Vampire Savior 2).
All About Vampire (Studio Bent Stuff's All About Series Vol.6), a guide book by Dempa Shinbunsha.
Vampire no Subete, a guide book published by Keibunsha as part of their "Encyclopedia" series.
Vampire (Gamest No.129), an extra issue of Shinseisha's book/magazine Gamest Mook.
The Very Best of Vampire (ISBN 4-89366-575-8), a guide/art book written by Famitsu staff and published by ASCII.
Mystery of Vampire, backstory/setting essay book co-authored by Gamest and Capcom.
All About Vampire Hunter (18362-06), a guide/art book published by Dempa Shinbunsha as part of Studio Bent Stuff's "All About Deluxe" series.
Vampire Hunter (GMC-11), a special issue of Shinseisha's magazine Gamest in the "Gamest Mook" ("magazine book") series.
The Vampire Hunter Sega Saturn Manual Ver.1 (ISBN 4-89366-493-X) and The Vampire Hunter Sega Saturn Manual Ver.2 (ISBN 4-89366-505-7), two guide books for the Sega Saturn version, written by Famitsu staff and published by ASCII.
Vampire Hunter Perfect Guide (ISBN 4-88199-237-6), a Gamest Mook "EX"-series guide book for the Sega Saturn version, published by Shinseisha.
Mystery of Vampire Hunter, backstory/setting essay book co-authored by Gamest and Capcom.
Vampire Hunter: Midnight Elegy, a novel written by Rei Isaki and published by Famitsu.